Comments on: What’s in a Name? Unpacking the terms expat, immigrant, and migrant https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/ Mexico's English-language news Thu, 02 Jan 2025 14:22:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Robert Weiss https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-12248 Thu, 02 Jan 2025 14:22:47 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-12248 In reply to PATRICK O’HEFFERNAN.

In places that have expat”communities I’m sure that word is perfectly acceptable and if that is your primary audience makes perfect sense

As a person who came to share Mexico’s real culture, I live within the Mexican community, the city at large and most of my life is populated with everyday Mexican people I don’t care for that label. My dream of Mexico has finally come to exist after a lifetime of visits and 10 years of living. My Spanish is good enough to now have more Mexican friends than foreigners, and I live in a wonerful working class colonia in Zihuatanejo. I do have very good friends, those considered expats, who speak little Spanish and occupy large homes with new cars but mostly the heart of Mexico finally fills most of my life. I will forever have the privilege of being a foreigner when I choose, as a white. man with an American passport. My intention is th live long enough to get my Mexican passport, The only gringo I’ve ever known who was a true immigrant was the woodcarver Gerald Shaw. an African American from Boston who moved to Zihuatanejo in the early l960’s and lived as an artisan and as a campesino harvesting corn and other crops. He lived in a small palapa house and studio entirely off the grid which he bult with his own hands.

I will never be Mexican, but this country and it’s culture is what I admire most. and have chosen for myself and I live daily with the intention and joy of assimilating and sharing its roots as much and as deeply as possible.

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By: Jim Novak https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-12247 Thu, 02 Jan 2025 05:22:59 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-12247 I am a “permanent resident” of Mexico as the law defines my status. The immigration law also provides for “temporary residents.” The vast majority of those who enter Mexico come as “tourists.” Some come to Mexico as Asylum seekers, which is a legal status. Many others, especially poor, those who cannot afford to obtain a legal status come as illegals. Permanent residents can become citizens and as best I know have all the legal rights of a naturally born Mexican.

As I am a citizen of the USA, could be a citizen of Mexico by simply applying, and am a permanent resident of Ecuador, I prefer to think of myself as an ” internationalist.”

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By: George Sickler https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-12220 Wed, 01 Jan 2025 18:18:08 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-12220 Well, to me, an expat is a person who decides to leave his or her home country to try to reside in another, with the freedom to go back and forth, to decide to try another country or just go back home.

An immigrant is someone who decides to move to an other country, settle down and establish roots. To gain employment, establish a family, kinda cut off ties to the home country but still have the citizenship to head back, etc.

My ancestors in the mid-1600s were British subjects who immigrated from England to the English Colony of Virginia in the Americas. In the 1770s, my Grandfather, a farmer in the Culpeper County Piedmont area, also was a Captain in the Culpeper Minutemen (a well-regulated militia). He turned traitor and fought with Washington to establish Virginia as a free and independent State in what became the United States of America.

A migrant, as the article says, is kinda like a person with no intended roots who often moves around to where the work opportunities are, often seasonal as in agriculture planting and harvesting. Or forestry, fishing, digital nomads who can work on-line anywhere if there’s Internet, etc.

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By: George Sickler https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-12219 Wed, 01 Jan 2025 18:16:38 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-12219 Well, ro me, an expat is a person who decides to leave his or her home country to try to reside in another, with the freedom to go back and forth, to decide to try another country or just go back home.

An immigrant is someone who decides to move to an other country, settle down and establish roots. To gain employment, establish a family, kinda cut off ties to the home country but still have the citizenship to head back, etc.

My ancestors in the mid-1600s were British subjects who immigrated from England to the English Colony of Virginia in the Americas. In the 1770s, my Grandfather, a farmer in the Culpeper County Piedmont area, also was a Captain in the Culpeper Minutemen (a well-regulated militia). He turned traitor and fought with Washington to establish Virginia as a free and independent State in what became the United States of America.

A migrant, as the article says, is kinda like a person with no intended roots who often moves around to where the work opportunities are, often seasonal as in agriculture planting and harvesting. Or forestry, fishing, digital nomads who can work on-line anywhere if there’s Internet, etc.

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By: Evert McIlwain https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-12207 Wed, 01 Jan 2025 17:33:02 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-12207 In reply to William Mullins.

My view of a migrant is someone (people) who are looking for a better life, work…yes they may move through or may be only in one location for work and returning to their home country.

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By: Evert McIlwain https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-12206 Wed, 01 Jan 2025 17:31:23 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-12206 In reply to PATRICK O’HEFFERNAN.

But there is always opportunity for change. Yes you publish for “expats” but your publications also directs “expats” on how they see themselves. Perhaps it’s time to look how those who are native to this country see as you call “expats” and what would improve their impression of those who have chosed to live in this wonderful country. In Canada I do not call people from another country an expat. I identify them as possibly an immigrant or foreigner.

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By: ME Turner https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-12008 Thu, 26 Dec 2024 06:37:41 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-12008 When I lived and worked in Pto Vallarta tourism we called ourselves “gringos” because that’s what the Mexicans called us. It was good natured and non-judgemental. “Expat” was not a commonly used description in the 90’s as it is now. The term came into popular usage in the 1920s-1930s to describe artists/writers who had moved to Paris from the US to ply their trade in the creative (and inexpensive) atmosphere. Since I retired and having been living in Baja for the last 7 years, we don’t call each other anything but our given names. No assumptions or labels required except by the media.

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By: William Mullins https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-11822 Sun, 22 Dec 2024 00:35:22 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-11822 Here is an unconscious assumption on the author’s part:
““Migrants” are people searching for higher pay and better living conditions”
This is objectively untrue. A “migrant” is a person who moves from one country to another, period. Migrants can move for many different reasons.

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By: stegowhite@gmail.com https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-11821 Sun, 22 Dec 2024 00:33:52 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-11821 I think your ideas about “expat” are worth seriously thinking about.
How expressing those thoughts becomes something to “mind your own business” about is baffling, because you didn’t force anyone read them. Maybe don’t read it if you are thin-skinned.
It would also help if people learned what “woke” really means. Maybe? Nope. They don’t have the civility to cope.

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By: PATRICK O'HEFFERNAN https://mexiconewsdaily.com/mexico-living/whats-in-a-name-is-expat-an-offensive-word/comment-page-3/#comment-11782 Fri, 20 Dec 2024 22:10:37 +0000 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/?p=419462#comment-11782 I have instructed my reporters to use “Expat” as “foreigner” has negative connotations in English and my readers are English speakers for the most part. I understand that Expat also has connotations, but we recognize that we are people who now live in an adopted county. As editor of Lakeside News in Ajijic, I publish many stories about expats and have had no complaints.

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